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you. >> giffords husband mark kelly says expanding background checks should be a top priority but the nra's chief executive yesterday refused to give any ground. >> we know from what happened in tucson that if there was an effective background check which includes having the mental health data and the person's drug use in the case of the tucson shooter into the system and if, in fact, there was no gun show loophole, i would contend he would have had a very difficult time getting a gun. if background checks are good enough for somebody who is a federal firearms licensed dealer like walmart, for instance where i just purchased a gun a couple months ago, a hunting rifle and i had to good through a background check, why isn't that good for other sales? >> my problem with background checks is you'll never get criminals to go through universal background checks. i mean, all the law abiding people. you'll create an enormous federal bureaucracy. >> we're not going to prosecute the bad guys if they do catch one. and none of it makes any sense in the real world. >> that's the point. the criminals won
you. >> giffords husband mark kelly says expanding background checks should be a top priority but the nra's chief executive yesterday refused to give any ground. >> we know from what happened in tucson that if there was an effective background check which includes having the mental health data and the person's drug use in the case of the tucson shooter into the system and if, in fact, there was no gun show loophole, i would contend he would have had a very difficult time getting a...
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and the nra, so for him it's a tricky situation. i think it's going to be -- you've asked debbie wasserman-shultz, does her voice resonate. of course it does emotional. i was there when she got a standing ovation and hugged the president, but it's going to be a tough road to ho. i think you'll see folks say, let's have a smaller piece of legislation that might be more acceptable to conservatives who don't want to go too far. the universal background checks is the most likely and the bigger issues enjoy almost 90% in public polling but the bigger issue will be harder to achieve. >> the nra is talking about what they feel is the obvious choice in all of this, it's not more gun regulation, it's enforcing laws we have on the books and evaluating mental health and the fact they think more schools to avoid school shootings need more armed security. the nra statistics since the newtown shooting, 4.5 million people current membership, they report a 400,000 surge in membership, 8,000 a day week after the shooting. ben, when you look at those
and the nra, so for him it's a tricky situation. i think it's going to be -- you've asked debbie wasserman-shultz, does her voice resonate. of course it does emotional. i was there when she got a standing ovation and hugged the president, but it's going to be a tough road to ho. i think you'll see folks say, let's have a smaller piece of legislation that might be more acceptable to conservatives who don't want to go too far. the universal background checks is the most likely and the bigger...
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but the nra is a fearsome political lobby. members particularly in the republican party are terrified of being primaried. this issue is often covered through a partisan prism when it should be looked at through a regional prism. if you talk about democrats in the south, in the mountain west, and places like north dakota, and you saw the new saar heidi heitkamp come out and she thinks some of the proposals coming out of the white house are way too extreme for her. so you'll have republican senators like mark kirk in illinois who have been open in the past on issues like assault weapons bans, and you'll have democrats in the west, the mountain west and the rural south that will be absolutely opposed to it. and as you said earlier, though it is nonsense, and i'm certainly a person who believes that you can be a second amendment supporter, and also have sensible regulations on guns, but this issue plays out on the extremes, on the absurd binary choice that has defined the issue for so long. >> and that analysis, what you said ther
but the nra is a fearsome political lobby. members particularly in the republican party are terrified of being primaried. this issue is often covered through a partisan prism when it should be looked at through a regional prism. if you talk about democrats in the south, in the mountain west, and places like north dakota, and you saw the new saar heidi heitkamp come out and she thinks some of the proposals coming out of the white house are way too extreme for her. so you'll have republican...
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why is the nra adamant about there being no new laws? >> the nra primarily wants to sell guns. they represent gun manufacturers as well as citizens and that was not in wayne lapierre's statement. they like this conflict and want to create the fear that the government is going to come after guns because it sells more guns and it has across the country. the other thing is, they are stri dentally aposed to any restriction, they keep reporting this slippery slope argument. if there were any validity, we would have confiscated every gun because we've been working this for many years and the brady bill would have been a first step. that's a silly argument. people like mitch mcconnell are stoking it. in my state he put out an e-mail that was titled, they are coming to get your guns. that's how brazen some are them are. >> let me ask you about the specifics because we were talking about wayne lapierre's statement which he released yesterday. one of the things he said, no on universal background checks. i'm wondering what you feel the mood on the hill is right now and whether you think
why is the nra adamant about there being no new laws? >> the nra primarily wants to sell guns. they represent gun manufacturers as well as citizens and that was not in wayne lapierre's statement. they like this conflict and want to create the fear that the government is going to come after guns because it sells more guns and it has across the country. the other thing is, they are stri dentally aposed to any restriction, they keep reporting this slippery slope argument. if there were any...
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until now, he's been fighting a weak enemy because there's no money or force of the nra. one of the group's vice president's task force will meet with this week and now rising to fight the nra and led by gabby giffords and husband mark kelly who sat down with diane sawyer. >> i have a gun. we're both gun owners. we are strong supporters of the 2nd amendment but we have to do something to keep the guns from getting in to the wrong hands. >> when it can happen to children in the classroom, it's time to say -- >> enough. >> giffords is a former legislat legislator, makes her perfectly poised to lead a new pac and new legislation from the president to sport and including background checks for every gun, banning -- every gun buyer and magazines and making gun trafficking laws national. but will any of that pass and make a difference? let's spin. i welcome gabby giffords in to the fight because they're so decimated. there's billions of dollars to be made in gun rights and nothing to be made in gun control. i like the white house's first step and this may get watered down as we
until now, he's been fighting a weak enemy because there's no money or force of the nra. one of the group's vice president's task force will meet with this week and now rising to fight the nra and led by gabby giffords and husband mark kelly who sat down with diane sawyer. >> i have a gun. we're both gun owners. we are strong supporters of the 2nd amendment but we have to do something to keep the guns from getting in to the wrong hands. >> when it can happen to children in the...
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the rank and file members of the nra and him and his gun lobby buddies. that was fully on display this afternoon during the hearing. >> julian, what do you make of that? this notion has been discussed at length. the constituency that we talked about in the open that the nra claims to represent and what stephen is talking about. which is other people who own guns but have a different view of the road ahead. >> well, i think it's very clear through a number of different things we've learned since the newtown tragedy that wayne lapierre represents the interests of gun manufacturers, not of gun owners. i think it's clear there's a lot of daylight between the two. one of the things that became clear today in the hearing, i think, was that lapierre's credibility is quickly evapor e evaporating. even amongst republicans who are squeamish about the lunatic things this guy has said from time to time. not just going after the president's children. not just the idea we ought to be marketing assaults to 10-year-old kids. when chairman leahy today exposed the fact lap
the rank and file members of the nra and him and his gun lobby buddies. that was fully on display this afternoon during the hearing. >> julian, what do you make of that? this notion has been discussed at length. the constituency that we talked about in the open that the nra claims to represent and what stephen is talking about. which is other people who own guns but have a different view of the road ahead. >> well, i think it's very clear through a number of different things we've...
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also testifying the nra's wayne lapierre. the nra reached out to its members urging them to attend this senate committee hearing. in an e-mail and online in a posting the gun lobby group says "you can bet the anti-gunners will be trying to mobilize their supporters to pack the hearing room and we need to make sure that the room is filled with second amendment supporters!" dana bash is on capitol hill this morning and finding out all sorts of stuff this morning for example there was a move to bring guns into the senate committee hearing, is that going to happen? >> reporter: it's not and it was a move by two of the republican senators on the committee, two of the chief supports of gun rights, lindsey graham and ted cruz. i'm told by a spokesman for graham they're not going to do this because of lots of red tape and bureaucracy in order to allow them to do this. first and foremost assault weapons are not legal in the district of columbia so they gave up and lindsey graham is going to have pictures and posters of these weapons a
also testifying the nra's wayne lapierre. the nra reached out to its members urging them to attend this senate committee hearing. in an e-mail and online in a posting the gun lobby group says "you can bet the anti-gunners will be trying to mobilize their supporters to pack the hearing room and we need to make sure that the room is filled with second amendment supporters!" dana bash is on capitol hill this morning and finding out all sorts of stuff this morning for example there was a...
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eight out of ten nra members support universal background checks. who is wayne lapierre speaking for? >> the gun manufacturers, of course. it's not the first time that we have had a big lobbying organization in washington that purports to represent a grassroots or a local membership, but is in fact doing the bidding of a very, very big interests. probably the most prominent example of that is the u.s. chamber of commerce, which purports to represent small businesses across the country, but in fact is the mouthpiece for global multinational huge corporations. so that's nothing new to anybody watching these hearings take place in washington. >> senator sheldon whitehouse, good to have you with us tonight on "the ed show." you know, if you want a good example of the cultural divide that we have in this country. they're raffling off 200 guns, including three ar-15 assault rifles. perfectly legal. it is their biggest fundraiser of the year. this is just another day at the office for how to raise money for youth sports in the middle of the country. now, w
eight out of ten nra members support universal background checks. who is wayne lapierre speaking for? >> the gun manufacturers, of course. it's not the first time that we have had a big lobbying organization in washington that purports to represent a grassroots or a local membership, but is in fact doing the bidding of a very, very big interests. probably the most prominent example of that is the u.s. chamber of commerce, which purports to represent small businesses across the country,...
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you know, there are a lot of nra members in this country. we have significant evidence to suggest that they're not all opposed, in fact there may well be a majority in favors of limitations on the assault weapon availability. let me just give you a story from a visit i have in wilcox, arizona, a small community, a rural community down to the south of tucson near the border. i was down there for a meeting on a day the children were killed in connecticut. as i was leaving the meeting, an 80-year-old farmer who's been generations in the business of farming chile down there said i've a lifelong member, i've had a gun since i was a boy, and i love to hundred, but ron, you have to go back to congress and do something about the assault weapons. i take that as an example of perhaps many, many more nra members who feel differently. this is not about taking away people's guns, but preventing mass shootings, and doing so through mental health services and reducing access to the assault weapons and the high-capacity magazines. >> congressman barber, i h
you know, there are a lot of nra members in this country. we have significant evidence to suggest that they're not all opposed, in fact there may well be a majority in favors of limitations on the assault weapon availability. let me just give you a story from a visit i have in wilcox, arizona, a small community, a rural community down to the south of tucson near the border. i was down there for a meeting on a day the children were killed in connecticut. as i was leaving the meeting, an...
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does the nra have disproportionate power? you argued a moment ago that they didn't have the power they once had in a presidential election. >> look, i'll give you a good example. one of the things they decided to do in this last election was to support some candidates that were running against those that had great records with the nra, where the nra was putting their money into one side. i decided to put my money into the other side. >> joe baca in california one of those democrats that you -- >> we won four out of seven. four out of seven where the nra supported every one of those four and we won with a small amount of money. there is this myth that the nra is so powerful -- >> mr. bloomberg's experimental anti-nra pac spending, it did focus on seven races in 2012. he didn't win all of them. but he did win four of those races. and it didn't take him a ton of money to do it. and as we reported last night, the nra's own spending was profoundly impotent in the last election. less than 1% of their multimillion-dollar expenditure
does the nra have disproportionate power? you argued a moment ago that they didn't have the power they once had in a presidential election. >> look, i'll give you a good example. one of the things they decided to do in this last election was to support some candidates that were running against those that had great records with the nra, where the nra was putting their money into one side. i decided to put my money into the other side. >> joe baca in california one of those democrats...
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the nra is going to be dwarfed. they are not by any means the largest special interests in politics. and the reality, charles, the one thing you have to acknowledge when we talk about the politics of this, is that the assault on weapons ban wasn't renewed in 2004, and democrats, largely credit, not large -- but credit in part their loss of congress in 1994 to the pass on the assault weapons ban. the truth is, this isn't, as you point out, anderson, a partisan issue. this is gun owners -- the nra has a-listers -- >> but your position on nra is based on money. to your point, they have 4 million members who are very energized and who in local districts would be very upset if their congressman or senator -- >> but isn't that then a representative of the populous? isn't it then representing the people's desire? which is why i think if you're going to see change in gun legislation, it's got to come from the public and not from washington. and i do think something has changed after newtown. i do think that there is somethi
the nra is going to be dwarfed. they are not by any means the largest special interests in politics. and the reality, charles, the one thing you have to acknowledge when we talk about the politics of this, is that the assault on weapons ban wasn't renewed in 2004, and democrats, largely credit, not large -- but credit in part their loss of congress in 1994 to the pass on the assault weapons ban. the truth is, this isn't, as you point out, anderson, a partisan issue. this is gun owners -- the...
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this is gun owners -- the nra has a-listers -- >> but your position on nra is based on money. to your point, they have 4 million members who are very energized and who in local districts would be very upset if see their congressman or senator -- >> but isn't that then a representative of the populous? isn't it then representing the people's desire? which is why i think if you're going to see change in gun legislation, it's got to come from the public and not from washington. and i do think something has changed after newtown. i do think that there is something that hit a chord with the american public, where people are evaluating, okay, to what extent am i willing to balance my right to have a gun, my right to with what makes sense -- >> so you think -- >> i think something has changed after newtown. i think the will of the populous has changed. when the rubber hits the wheel in washington, it's still going to be difficult. you have the practicality of the debt crisis. the sequester hasn't even been handled, let alone immigration, which the president promised to do. i don't kn
this is gun owners -- the nra has a-listers -- >> but your position on nra is based on money. to your point, they have 4 million members who are very energized and who in local districts would be very upset if see their congressman or senator -- >> but isn't that then a representative of the populous? isn't it then representing the people's desire? which is why i think if you're going to see change in gun legislation, it's got to come from the public and not from washington. and i...
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the nra said it's "sending a rep to see what they have to say." my, that's big of them. other gun fans are having their say on the internet. they're promoting gun appreciation day to be held on january 19th. gun activists are being urged to turn out at gun stores, ranges and gun shows from coast-to-coast. we'll have a commentary on that later in the show. and if talk show host alex jones is with them, let's hope someone brings his meds. last night jones had what is now an iconically famous screaming fit which was rudely interrupted by piers morgan trying to ask questions about gun control. here's part of what alex jones had to screech. >> 1776 will commence again if you try to take our firearms. it doesn't matter how many you get out there on the street begging for them to have their guns taken. we will not relinquish them. do you understand? >> john: only too well, sir. you need help. i'm joined by nancy bowman, a nurse on the scene in tucson two years ago when the shooting took place and along with her, helped treat the victims. nancy has a plan, part of the mayor's ca
the nra said it's "sending a rep to see what they have to say." my, that's big of them. other gun fans are having their say on the internet. they're promoting gun appreciation day to be held on january 19th. gun activists are being urged to turn out at gun stores, ranges and gun shows from coast-to-coast. we'll have a commentary on that later in the show. and if talk show host alex jones is with them, let's hope someone brings his meds. last night jones had what is now an iconically...
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we've heard enough from the nra. it's time they follow some simple advice from her own statement today. be bold. be courageous. we've heard enough and we've seen enough. the time is now. joining me now is lorie hauss, whose daughter, emily, survived being shot in the virginia tech massacre in 2007 and clarence page. >> lorie, let me start with you. you were at the hearing today. don't our elected leaders need to show the courage gabby showed today? >> absolutely, reverend sharpton. thanks for having me on the show. >> thank you for coming. >> frankly, we need leadership from all of our rep zen tifrs. and, you know, we demand courage from them. but, frankly, you know, it shouldn't take much courage to stand up to the nra. courage is, you know, facing down the barrel of a gun. and, you know, my daughter did that. and there were 16 other injured students at virginia tech who did that. and who stand with us in this area. you know, in my opinion, the nra should not even be at the table. i don't see reports from them. i do
we've heard enough from the nra. it's time they follow some simple advice from her own statement today. be bold. be courageous. we've heard enough and we've seen enough. the time is now. joining me now is lorie hauss, whose daughter, emily, survived being shot in the virginia tech massacre in 2007 and clarence page. >> lorie, let me start with you. you were at the hearing today. don't our elected leaders need to show the courage gabby showed today? >> absolutely, reverend sharpton....
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among those expected to testify, the nra president, wayne lapierre. the former astronaut mark kelly, the husband of former congresswoman gabby giffords who was shot in the head with a meet and greet with constituents back in 2011. giffords has just made her way into the room. she was originally not on the schedule. that changed earlier today. as we await all this, our chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel tees us up live on capitol hill. what we have heard though going into this hearing, about what lawmakers are planning and sort of a big picture, mike. what have you heard there? >> reporter: well, bill, it is interesting because the chairman of the committee, patrick leahy is from vermont. while he is interested in taking a look at gun violence, there is undoubtedly a lot of his constituents are strong supporters of the second amendment. so he has a fine line to walk. what we do expect to hear plenty of emotion from both sides of the issue. as you mentioned from the nra. also congresswoman gabby giffords is there. we expect her to make a sta
among those expected to testify, the nra president, wayne lapierre. the former astronaut mark kelly, the husband of former congresswoman gabby giffords who was shot in the head with a meet and greet with constituents back in 2011. giffords has just made her way into the room. she was originally not on the schedule. that changed earlier today. as we await all this, our chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel tees us up live on capitol hill. what we have heard though going into this...
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nra has had this game all to themselves. they have been able to play it with no money in the game, on the side of people who wanted some sense of gun safety. now with people like gabby giffords, people who can attract funds and target them strategically i think the game is -- >> the president has the national -- we have more power than nra but i believe you were right from the standpoint and being a person who makes laws people should come to this table find out what they do agree on instead of politicizing it. it is a political issue. i think leaders should come together and stop the bipartisan -- with enyou have the nra saying we're against an assault weapons ban, against everything. to me the nra has become nothing more than a shield for the gun manufacturers. if you find out where their finances are coming it's true. they get their membership dues for sure but they get huge monies from gun manufacturers. they're in the business of telling more guns. >> they are in the business of selling more guns, but do you have democr
nra has had this game all to themselves. they have been able to play it with no money in the game, on the side of people who wanted some sense of gun safety. now with people like gabby giffords, people who can attract funds and target them strategically i think the game is -- >> the president has the national -- we have more power than nra but i believe you were right from the standpoint and being a person who makes laws people should come to this table find out what they do agree on...
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, with the nra leadership. but in fact, i think a lot of, you know, our positions on this subject, are much in line with the nra membership. >> i think that's true. and i think a lot of people who are with the nra or affiliated with it feel uneasy with the intransigence coming after massacres like sandy hook. i want to play you a clip from my interview with alex jones. it's been watched by over 5 million people now, gone viral, and some people find it entertaining. i didn't. i found it terrifying. let's listen to what he had to say. >> i'm here to tell you, 1776 will commence again if you try to take our firearms. doesn't matter how many lemmings you get on the street begging for them to have their guns taken. we will not relinquish them. do you understand? that's why you're going to fail and the establishment knows no matter how much propaganda, the republic will rise again when you attempt to take our guns. >> i mean, the thing that really concerned me about that, mark, was the scale of the vitriol, the alarm
, with the nra leadership. but in fact, i think a lot of, you know, our positions on this subject, are much in line with the nra membership. >> i think that's true. and i think a lot of people who are with the nra or affiliated with it feel uneasy with the intransigence coming after massacres like sandy hook. i want to play you a clip from my interview with alex jones. it's been watched by over 5 million people now, gone viral, and some people find it entertaining. i didn't. i found it...
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gun owners -- the nra has a-listers -- >> but your argument on nra is based on money. doesn't their influence go far beyond just the dollars they may spend? to your point, they have 4 million members who are very vocal and very energized and who go out and vote and who in local districts would be very upset if they see their congressman or their senator -- >> but isn't that then a representation of the populace rather than just this special interest group? isn't it representing the people's desire? which is why i think if you're going to see change in gun legislation, it's got to come from the public and not from washington. and i do think something has changed after newtown. i do think that there is something that hit a chord with the american public where people are evaluating, okay, to what extent am i willing to balance my right to have a gun, my right to hunt with what makes sense in terms of -- >> so you think -- >> i think something has changed after newtown. >> so you think some form of legislation may be possible? >> i think in terms of the will of the populac
gun owners -- the nra has a-listers -- >> but your argument on nra is based on money. doesn't their influence go far beyond just the dollars they may spend? to your point, they have 4 million members who are very vocal and very energized and who go out and vote and who in local districts would be very upset if they see their congressman or their senator -- >> but isn't that then a representation of the populace rather than just this special interest group? isn't it representing the...
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she is nra all the way. and then debbie halvorson met this public pressure. >> in the race to replace jesse jackson, watch out for debbie halvorson. when she was in congress before, halvorson got an "a" from the nra. the nra, against comprehensive background checks, against banning deadly assault weapons, against banning high hawaii capacity ammunition clips. halvorson even sponsored a bill that would allow some criminals to carry loaded guns across state lines. debbie halvorson. when it comes to promoting gun violence, she gets an f. >> that ad, that pressure ad comes from new york city mayor michael bloomberg's pro-gun reform superpac. it's part of his campaign to build support in congress for meaningful national gun reform. and you know what? it appears to be working. once that ad started running in her district, debbie halvorson, who had said she would not be moved on this issue, debbie halvorson moved on this issue. ms. halvorson telling buzzfeed, quote, my win will not be a victory for the nra. how can
she is nra all the way. and then debbie halvorson met this public pressure. >> in the race to replace jesse jackson, watch out for debbie halvorson. when she was in congress before, halvorson got an "a" from the nra. the nra, against comprehensive background checks, against banning deadly assault weapons, against banning high hawaii capacity ammunition clips. halvorson even sponsored a bill that would allow some criminals to carry loaded guns across state lines. debbie...
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>> reporter: the nra says adding new laws would hit ordinary citizens, not criminals. >> my problem with background checks, you're never going to get criminals to go through universal background checks. >> reporter: many democrats want to limit magazines to ten bullets. while republicans say self defense may require more. >> one bullet in the hand of a mentally unstable person or a convicted felon is one too many. six bullets in the hands of a mother protecting her twin 9-year-olds may not be enough. >> reporter: today, in an interview with telemundo's jose diaz balart, president obama said new restrictions could make a difference. >> even if it doesn't save every person who is a potential victim of gun violence. we save a few. if we don't do that, shame on us. >> reporter: and the president goes on the road to minnesota monday to sell his own reforms. and many republicans and members of the nra are saying prosecutors today need to do more to enforce the laws that are already on the books. brian? >> kelly o'donnell, after a big day on the hill. kelly, thanks. >>> there are fewer places i
>> reporter: the nra says adding new laws would hit ordinary citizens, not criminals. >> my problem with background checks, you're never going to get criminals to go through universal background checks. >> reporter: many democrats want to limit magazines to ten bullets. while republicans say self defense may require more. >> one bullet in the hand of a mentally unstable person or a convicted felon is one too many. six bullets in the hands of a mother protecting her twin...
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a dramatic appeal from gabby giffords, pleading with congress to act on guns while the head of the nra says not so fast. all of this played out at the very moment we heard of another shooting spree. >>> a deadly outbreak of tornadoes tearing up part of the south, along a dangerous line of colliding winter and summer weather that is visible from space. >>> direct strike. israel has now attacked syria in an air strike. what does this mean for this very dangerous civil war? and all the nations nearby? >>> and the parent trap. if you think it's tough cheering for your kids on the sidelines, imagine your kids are the opposing coaches in the super bowl. tonight, we'll hear from their folks. "nightly news" begins now. >>> from nbc news world headquarters in new york, this is "nbc nightly news" with brian williams. >> good evening. it takes just a moment to remember back clearly to the very moment we learned about the shootings at sandy hook elementary school in newtown, connecticut. to remember how shocked we all were and how sad and sorry a scene that was. well, this is still very much the p
a dramatic appeal from gabby giffords, pleading with congress to act on guns while the head of the nra says not so fast. all of this played out at the very moment we heard of another shooting spree. >>> a deadly outbreak of tornadoes tearing up part of the south, along a dangerous line of colliding winter and summer weather that is visible from space. >>> direct strike. israel has now attacked syria in an air strike. what does this mean for this very dangerous civil war? and...
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the nra is opposed to this. the nra is wildly opposed to this. in tucson top, anniversary of the massacre there, the nra has come outraging against the tucson gun buyback program. they're trying to stop it. an nra board member is threatening that the nra will sue to stop tucson from destroying the guns that they handed over. the guns, regardless what their owners wanted, done with them, those guns must be sold to the highest bidder and put back into circulation. the nra says the state must not destroy the weapons that people handed over specifically so the weapons could be destroyed. instead, the nra says the state has to sell them, keep them in circulation, and thereby become a gun dealer itself. when your response to the political cliche of low-hanging fruit is something so cartoonishly insensitive, so cartoonishly villainous, you then bring upon us a second political cliche. you have jumped the shark. blocking voluntary efforts by people to get rid of their own guns because they want to voluntarily? that is an exercise in shark jumping. this i
the nra is opposed to this. the nra is wildly opposed to this. in tucson top, anniversary of the massacre there, the nra has come outraging against the tucson gun buyback program. they're trying to stop it. an nra board member is threatening that the nra will sue to stop tucson from destroying the guns that they handed over. the guns, regardless what their owners wanted, done with them, those guns must be sold to the highest bidder and put back into circulation. the nra says the state must not...